Bryan McAnulty: Welcome to the Creator's Adventure, where we interview Creator's from around the world, hearing their stories about growing a business. My name is Bryan McAnulty. I'm the founder of Heights Platform. And today I'm talking with Cary Jack about how to enjoy the journey in your business. Avoid burnout and find balance in your work and life.

Hey everyone. We're here today with Cary Jack. He is a lifestyle entrepreneur, author podcast, host professional actor slash model humanitarian and nature lover. He is also the founder of the happy hustle whose mission is to educate, inspire, and entertain while reminding you to enjoy the journey, not the destination as you happy hustle for a life of passion and purpose Perry.

Welcome to the show.

Cary Jack: Hey, Bryan. Grateful to be here, man.

Bryan McAnulty: So, can you share with us a little bit of the story of how you started the business and the idea behind the happy hustle?

Cary Jack: Yeah, man. So I've always been an entrepreneur you know, growing up that was just. My path. I never was a, a good employee per se.

I've always you know, really liked that mentality of, I actually get to, you know, eat what I hunt and I'm, I don't necessarily. I don't follow directions that well, you know, so I was always like, all right, let me just do it my own way. You know? Fast forward, I had a tech startup in New York city for one of my companies and, you know, I was burning in the candle at both ends.

I I was working probably a hundred plus hour weeks, you know, getting less than five hours of sleep. And we were soliciting this, this big, you know VC funding play and we actually ended up landing a seven figure VC funding deal. We had partnerships with Microsoft and IBM on the table. We had, you know, this this algorithm that we built quantifying feedback, which could be utilized across different industries.

And you know, it had. Promise of a five year exit, big payout, all the things, you know, but unfortunately we just lost passion and purpose around it. And you know, we burn out my brother and I by by we, my brother and I were co-founders. And so I actually moved to Bangkok Thailand for about 10 months.

We folded, our company said no to this and figured deals, partnerships, everything, you know, 18 months of hard work. And I figured out over in Thailand, a better way to work and live, you know, a way to basically be happy within the everyday hustle. And I also made like my first, you know, dollars online over there.

Hmm. And it was there where the happy household was born and that's, you know, really become my mission for the past couple years is to really help other entrepreneurs avoid burnout and achieve this blissful balance. Cause I truly believe balance equals happiness. So that's how the happy hustles started.

Bryan McAnulty: Awesome. So we noticed, you mentioned on your website bio, that you grew up in a difficult environment, encountering adversities in your life and your business. What do you think helped you to overcome the failures and get to the point

Cary Jack: that you're at today?

Well, I just think having, you know, a resilient mindset, really, I believe if there's this one statement that resonated with me so greatly, actually it's from Zig Zigler talks about persistent consistency, you know, and that's just been a theme in my life when everything, you know, Goes awry. What stays true is the persistent consistency.

And just keep the course, or maybe you need to pivot, but then keep the course, you know, it's just one of those things that I think has allowed me to persevere past adversity and make no mistake when you're a creator, you know, that's, it's part of the game, you know, adversity's gonna strike, but being persistent and consistent will allow you to overcome

Bryan McAnulty: awesome.

So let's talk a little bit about burnout then. You mentioned how you experienced it in the past with a business venture. This is something that many entrepreneurs experience at some point in their journey. So can you share any tips on how to either prevent or cure that feeling of burnout?

Cary Jack: Yeah, well, again, circling back to balance, you know, for me, when I was in a burned out state, I really had to look at my life in these different areas in which I was allocating focus or was not allocating focus.

And that kind of became my framework for the happy hustle, which is called the 10 alignments of being a happy hustler. Makes up an acronym called soul mapping. You know, your soul's map to the blissfully balanced promise land, and I'm happy to run through those 10 different alignments. If you think it'd be beneficial for your

Bryan McAnulty: audience.

Yeah, definitely let's do that. That was one of the things I was planning to ask. So can you explain a little bit about how that

Cary Jack: framework works? Yeah. And actually, you know, I'll do one even better. Uh, Bryan, if you're feeling brave, what I, what I'd like to do is actually put you on the spot and take you through this quick assessment.

And for all of the Creator's out there who are listening and watching this is something that I actually recommend you do in conjunction with Bryan. And I. You know, listening to podcasts is great, but being an active participant is really where the magic happens. And so everyone out there I'll go through these, you know, these 10 different alignments.

And I want you to quantify yourself one to five. Five is an a you, you know, you're crushing it. One is an F means you're you're failing. You know, I, I wasn't much for school, but I do know the grading scale. So just picture yourself in the last 30 days. Where would you a honestly rank yourself? You know, five is an, a, one is an F and then obviously you can fill in the gap, you know, two, three and four, meaning D C and B.

So Bryan, we'll start with S which is the first of the alignments it's selfless service. Okay. Selfless service. Are you actually, you know, giving back to others, your time, your money, your expertise, or, you know, are you. Living more for yourself and for your own business and for your own personal game. And I'll tell you, man, I was just volunteering yesterday with the adaptive horsemanship therapy out here in Montana with kids with special needs and helping them ride horses.

And it lit me up. It always does, you know, but like that just gives me so much fulfillment giving back to others. So ask yourself right now, one to five where you. In this alignment, selfless service and I'll come back and we'll, we'll get it an assessment of where you're at in the first four. And then we'll, we'll recap the last six afterwards.

So write down your score. If you're driving, you know, maybe just memorize it, be safe, but we'll start with that. S now we get to the O optimized health. Okay. Okay. Optimize health. you know, are you mentally and physically optimized or maybe not so much, maybe in, you know, you you're shoving garbage down your pie hole, right?

You're eating trash foods and you're not moving the body and working out and getting that sweat. You know, honestly, where you're at in the last 30 days, rank yourself one to five. Okay. Fives and a once an F you unplugged digitally. Now this is one it's very difficult for Creator's, you know, like Bryan and I, we, we are on our devices.

We utilize tech for our businesses. However, you have to use tech and not let it use you. And you really have to set barriers in order to, you know, Be in control of your device time? Rank honestly, where you're at in this one, are you constantly scrolling social media, watching Netflix and listening to Bluetooth headphones and doing all the things or, you know, do you get outside and disconnect, rank where you're at and you okay.

Unplug digitally L loving relationships. Okay. Now this one, I. You get it, like what, what's it all for? If you don't have love in your life, right? You, you gotta have love. And I find most really. Successful people that you see out there. They actually and I don't wanna generalize most, but I'll say a great deal actually are lacking in their loving relationships cuz they sacrifice so much to get to the top.

Yeah. And I was in that, in that same realm when I was running my tech startup and I, I couldn't do it anymore cuz I was just so outta balance and, and I really think this. Oftentimes is overlooked. You know, we disregard our family and our friends and our loving relationships, especially those intimate, significant, you know, relationships in our inner circle just to get that success.

And that was my early driver, you know, profit success, ego, all the things, society deems important. But when you actually, you know, focus on all these 10 alignments and giving equal importance to. Then that's where the magic happened. That's where you start happy hustling. So those are the first four. You should have four scores right now.

Bryan, you feeling brave. You wanna share where you're at? Uh,

Bryan McAnulty: yeah, sure. I will. So let me should I add it all together? Is that the, the deal?

Cary Jack: No, just go through individually for now and add it at the end.

Bryan McAnulty: Got it. So number one, I gave myself a five. I'm really happy with where I'm at with that. I'm always trying to.

To give back and, and to service customers, other people in my life as much as possible. Uh, second one, the health that's the one that rated myself the lowest which I give myself a two for that. And the reason that my excuse is I have a, a four month old daughter and the any, any chance of working out or anything at all has completely gone away for me in the past.

Three or three or four months basically. So I gotta work on that, that part again. Yep. The the unplugging digitally I gave myself a four. I, I am really strict about that with different things. I make sure to pretty much completely ignore anything on the computer every Sunday. And I have, I, I will go back to things, I guess at times, checking emails or things like that.

But I do have a very strict schedule for myself as far as like, when I have to, if I do it at other times, I it's, if I'm purposefully on the computer. But like there's time for a family time for all that, like already set aside family, all that relationships. I, I couldn't be happier with that.

So I gave myself a five for that. So yeah, overall I'm pretty happy. I gotta get the, the health thing going back better.

Cary Jack: Yeah. And, and here's the thing, you know, and for you Bryan and everyone out there listening, going through this assessment, you know, this is a baseline, right? The first step to any change is awareness, right?

So we're getting a baseline established here, but you also have to give yourself grace, you know, you have to give yourself grace throughout this process. So now let's get to the mapping part. All right. So M stands for mindful spirituality. Right. Are you connecting with a higher power? Do you have faith in something bigger than yourself?

You know, I don't really care. What God you believe in one or another, I just care that you have faith in something bigger than yourself. You know, maybe you're practicing in prayer or meditation or breathwork something that connects you. Okay. So rank where you're at in this one, mindful spirituality, a abundance financially.

Okay. You know, are you living paycheck to paycheck and fear of your finances or, you know, maybe you're saving, investing and spending wisely. Right. And yeah, there's an economic downturn taking place. So a lot of people are really hyper focused on abundance financially, but truly this isn't the most important alignment.

They're all equally important. P this is personal development, right? You're either growing and Evolv. Or you're shrinking and dissolving, right? Those are your two choices. So you really wanna make sure that you're growing every single day. And I have a, a 90 minute system that I implement every single day.

Monday through Friday for personal growth. It's, you know, read 30 minutes in the morning, listen to 30 minutes of something educational and inspirational in the afternoon, and then watch something for 30 minutes in the evening, something inspirational and educational. And, and that guarantees that I'm trending the right direction.

Right. The second. So rank where you're at in that one personal development, the second P in the mapping part is passionate hobbies. So you got. Your hobbies that probably you grew up really loving and enjoying. And I find a lot high performers are completely lacking in this one. You know, they're just so focused on their business and their, you know, their success of their clients.

And that's all great, but you have to, you know, lead life with a full cup. And for me, you know, I love fly fishing. I love horseback riding, snowboarding, you know, getting out out there in my martial arts practices. Those are things that I cannot live without. I just, I wouldn't be a happy hustler if I didn't have my passionate hobbies.

I, I played, you know, my soccer game last night with all the guys. It's like those light me up, you know? So it's really important that you have passionate hobbies. Rank where you're at in that one right now I impactful work. Okay. Rank, you know, truly where you're at in, in terms of your career, you know, do you, do you feel that passion, which is like, okay, that, that inward calling on your heartstrings to really solve this problem?

For that purpose, you know, which is like that outward serving mission. Like who are you actually solving the problem for to actually make a positive impact? You know? And those are like three buzzwords. Sure. You hear 'em a ton, but like when you actually break 'em down at their core, like that's what the happy hustle's all about is, is really making sure that you're getting up every day excited, like, and, and sure.

There's gonna be days where you gotta do things. You Don. You know, I, I get it. I'm, you know, just coming from the guy who wore a banana banana suit in front of a smoothie shop. Okay. Like that was my job. So I, I get it, you know, I've, I've, I've had to do a whole bunch of things for money that I didn't necessarily enjoy, but the goal is to get to a place where every day you feel fulfilled with what you do.

So rank where you're at in. Impactful work and then N stands for nature connection. So, you know, truly assess like how often are you actually getting outside nature, you know, like disconnecting from your devices and everything, and life's noises, society's noises and really, you know, tap it into. Mother nature's glory.

And I just actually got back from five days in the wilderness. I host a, a event called Mon the Montana mastermind, epic camping Adventure, where I take high performing entrepreneurs into the back country wilderness with me for five days. And we basically do a complete digital detox, you know, tap into our primal nature, learn primitive, survival scales, fly fishing.

We do breath work meditation, you know, primal workouts. We have a business mastermind like it. One of the highlights of my year. Actually I do a couple of them a year, but that just charges me up. It's so rejuvenating because a I'm in nature and B I'm disconnected from all society's noise. And a lot of the guys who come on these, they leave just so charged up, ready to crush it in their business.

And I think it's really important that we integrate more with nature. And also it's important that we protect mother nature. You know, it's like people have just been decimating our planet. Poor practices on sustainable supply chains. And I really think it's important that we vote with our dollar and become conscious consumers supporting B corporations and corporations that are doing things the right way is imperative now more than ever.

So we can, you know, protect our planet for future generations, right? So rank where you're at and end nature connection. So you should have six scores now, Bryan, let's hear that map in part and where'd you end up.

Bryan McAnulty: All right. So I didn't write down the, the names of each one, but I wrote down the score. So the first one I gave myself a four.

Which, which was that again?

Cary Jack: Mindful spirituality.

Bryan McAnulty: Okay. Yeah. I gave myself a four on that. I think I, I did let I think I'm usually slightly better like where I would wanna be, but the, the Hustle and bustle all the, all the craziness of the past couple months has gotten me away from that a little bit.

So I do need to work on that. Next one uh, which was that abundance

Cary Jack: financially.

Bryan McAnulty: All right. For that one, I'm giving myself a four because I think there's, there's no way I can complain if anything of where I'm at, but I feel that if, if I was swaying anywhere in, in my balance, it's that I need to actually drive a little bit more attention into marketing in the sales side.

I see myself more as like the, the creative type where I, I enjoy the creating part so much that I might tend to neglect the, the marketing parts if I don't force myself to next one which was. Personal development, that one, I gave myself a five, four. I'm really happy with that. I feel I'm, I'm really growing pretty much every day with things that I'm working on, really, I guess, dedicating to time time for that.

Next one is like hobbies and

Cary Jack: things. Right? Passionate hobbies. Yep. Yep.

Bryan McAnulty: Yeah, that one I gave myself a four. Normally I'd be a five. I think that's something that the, the newborn is affecting a little bit, but That's something I'm, I'm really passionate about. Making sure that there's time for those hobbies.

Even like part of my feeling behind building Heights is related to that, that I want people to be able to use my product as like an extension of doing what they enjoy so that they have more time to do the things that they enjoy. So for me that's things like guitar, music games time with my family, things like that.

A bunch of stuff, but I, I make sure to always have time for that. I think like that, that helps you be creative back into your business later on. So yep. Then the next one was the nature. Right?

Cary Jack: Impactful work. I,

Bryan McAnulty: oh, impactful work, impactful work. I gave myself a five. And that, that, I'm also really happy with that.

I put a real lot of thought into that though. I've I feel like I've done a lot of things in business and I had the kind of realization and even seeing from experience and talking with others, that they reached a certain level of success without the impact and the, the lack of satisfaction from doing so.

So I made it a criteria for myself to figure out how can I do something that will have a positive impact as well? But not only in the business, but yeah, so I, I gave myself a five for that, for the nature one I gave myself a two cuz uh, going for, for walks with with my wife and a newborn once in a while.

But definitely not enough of that recently. So definitely gotta spend more time on that. I think

Cary Jack: mm-hmm well, and that's the thing it's like now you can look at your scores and everyone out there listening and watching like. Again, this is a baseline. This is just bring it to your awareness where you're lacking the last 30 days.

And, you know, I actually take my own medicine every Sunday. I, I do the same assessment and I actually look at the last seven days and now I can see where I'm lacking in that last seven days. So then I can prioritize change accordingly for the seven days prior. And I actually have a whiteboard fridge magnet that has these 10 different areas that I.

On. I, I actually, well, it's over there, but I, I have, you know, it's called a blissful balancer, so you can check where you're at in real time and you actually keep track of each of these different alignments. So for instance, selfless service could be, Hey, did you give 15 minutes of time or expertise today?

Right? Yes or no. Did Monday, did you do it? It's binary, right? It's there's no gray area you did, or you didn't. And that way at the end of the week, you'll see, there should be seven Xs filled out if, and you get a score of seven, if you're crushing it and you're happy hustling, if not, you know, maybe you missed a couple days.

So that way you can really track your time in your, your balance, right. In each of these different areas. So for everyone out there and for you, Bryan, if you want to take this to the, to the you know, the finish line, Actually add up your scores. So you should have all 10 of your scores added up. If you're 37 or above.

Congratulations. You're happy hustling if you're at 36 or below. Well, unfortunately you got some work to do so Bryan where'd you end up let's

Bryan McAnulty: see.

Don't have a calculator. So I gotta go add these up

Cary Jack: so I know, and everyone out there listening too, you should add these up as well. Yeah, well, it

Bryan McAnulty: looks, it looks like I am below. I kind of wrote everything in my notes in kind of a mess. It looks like I am a little bit below. So I do have some things to work on.

Yeah, but I actually have a question for you. So like I do really, really value business balance in my business. Uh, rather like I rather be the most balanced than the most successful. That is a really important thing to me personally. So it is an area that I, I really focus on myself in like keeping like health relationships.

All of that, all of that is equally as important as like the business success to me. So I like to think I'm doing a pretty good job of that and enjoying the journey of my business as well. But one area where I feel I could improve is maybe reflecting on like milestones and achievements with my team a little bit better.

So like, I feel like I will enjoy the whole process and the problem might be that I'm moving on to like that next milestone a bit too quickly. Without like enough reflection on it. So do you have any suggestions for, for me or somebody like me in that

Cary Jack: situation? Well, one thing that I actually, I just talked about On my podcast, the happy hustle was an after action recap.

So an after action recap is after you spend time, you know, with a sufficient amount of output for maybe your host in your event, or you completed a project or a speaking gig or consulting or whatever you do for your business, product or service. And after action recap oftentimes helps you assess and celebrate your wins and learn from your losses.

And I like to ask myself these three questions, you know, what should I start doing? What should I stop doing? What should I keep doing? And it's really, you know, it's a basic assessment, but it, you can identify mistakes, made lessons learned in, you know, evolutions necessary to really continuously improve.

So that, that's kind of what I would recommend for you. Bryan is really do an after action recap, you know, Of your, your big projects when you complete a milestone so that you can celebrate 'em, but you can also learn from places where you can improve. Cool. Yeah,

Bryan McAnulty: I like that. Yeah. I think we, we do a little bit of that, but I guess more of it should be done kind of altogether with, with everybody.

Yeah, I like that. So we are looking at also your book and we know this right now. Somebody wants to read your book. They can get it for free on your website and only pay for the shipping. And this is a pretty popular strategy nowadays, but for other Creator's, if maybe they're thinking about making a book or something like that, can you explain a little bit of like the reasoning behind

Cary Jack: that strategy?

Yeah, so the free plus shipping model, this is something I did with my former business which was a biohacking company. And you know, we were basically coaching elite performers and, you know, professional athletes, you know, fortune 500 CEOs, et cetera. And we had. This really successful book funnel that, you know, essentially gets people in the door at a low ticket purchase price, and then you nurture them through your value ladder.

And for all the Creator's out there, I, I really recommend the free plus shipping book funnel for people who have multiple offers. Now, if you're just a creator and all, you're all you. Like, or not just a creator, but if you're a creator and all you have is just a course, then the, this, this strategy isn't going to be applicable right now.

Now, in order to make up a free plus shipping book funnel work, you have to have items that you sell products or services that you sell on the back end to. Essentially recoup the break even, or sometimes the loss on the front end. So for example, if you go to the happy hustle book.com, you could see my funnel, you could see the front end, you can get the book.

The book is basically free. Like you don't pay for the book you pay for the shipping and handle it. I'm very close to break. Even on that purchase. It's I'm a little bit, you know, I come out a little bit ahead on that front end, but then where I really start to win is if someone wants the plus 19. OTO, which is the one time, you know, order bump, which you'll see if you go to that book funnel.

You'll. you'll get an extra copy of the book. You'll get the audio book version, which I narrated and you'll get three expert master classes, which are really like, it's a ton of value in there for 19 bucks. That one OTO makes that offer profitable. And I have like a 34% take rate on that OTO. So someone who maybe comes to my page, they just think they're getting a booked.

You know, one out of every three people are at taking the OTO. The next page I have is an actual course, you know, which goes with the book and my blissful bouncer, which is that whiteboard fridge magnet that I talked about, which is very, it it's for people who really wanna implement everything. They can get all that.

Normally it's 97 bucks. They get it on that page one time offer only for $47. So then that one I have, you know, like a, I don't know, it's a 14% take rate or something right now. I gotta look at the most recent stats my team sent me, but then there's a portion of people who take that, that next upsell. The next one is my membership community, the happy hustle club, where I have a, you know, a monthly reoccurring model of, of really high performing entrepreneurs.

And Creator's all coming together to join the. That, you know, portion of people take that one. And then my final page is a thank you. Page drives 'em to my podcast. And I also have an opportunity for the right people to come on one of my Montana masterminds that that flow makes that whole. You know, funnel profitable.

There's a portion of people who do take that higher ticket event, you know, and they join me on these very exclusive, you know, events. They're not, they're not right for everybody. You have to be making a certain minimum, you know, in terms of revenue every year, you have to, you know, pass the beer test, which is very important to me.

You actually, I actually have to want to get a beer with you. You know, there's there's criteria, so it's not right for everyone, but that. Free plus shipping funnel can be really effective for you and your business as a creator. If you do have multiple offerings that all tie together. Yeah.

Bryan McAnulty: That's great.

So one more question, like diving deeper into that. If you don't mind sharing, are these things all shown as like upsells during that purchase process? Or are they like shown through newsletters or something after the

Cary Jack: purchase? Yeah, they're, they're shown throughout the purchase process one at a. So each one that I just listed, if you say no to the course, then you'll go take, you'll get taken to the next page, which is about the happy household club.

If you say no to that, you'll get taken to the thank you page, which asks if you wanna apply. So it's, they're individual pages, but they're all part of that purchase process. Got

Bryan McAnulty: it. Yeah, I like that because on one hand if you don't do it right, like it's possible to, to overdo the, the upsells or whatever and create a, a bad customer experience, but on the, the same page you can also do what you're doing and be really successful with it.

Because I think somebody, I guess we talked with recently, we were talking about this topic where they mentioned that, like, if you're going to have these different offers, There's somebody who's ready to buy that higher ticket offer from you right now. So why not give them the opportunity instead of waiting until a month later, then maybe they're not ready anymore.

Maybe they're already out of the whole feeling that you've created. So why not present that opportunity to them right away. So I like that that take that you have of the way of

Cary Jack: doing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, and people, you know, they buy with emotion, but they justify with logic. So throughout every single interaction of, you know, when you're making a transaction for your course, if you're a creator, you know, for whatever you're creating.

You have to really think about, okay, people buy with emotion, but they justify with logic. So how can I get these people emotionally interested in whatever my product or service is doing? Oftentimes that's really focusing more so on the benefits, not the features of your product and service. I know a lot of Creator's are like, oh, my course has 10 modules, 35, you know, hours of content.

You're gonna love it. That's focusing on the features. They don't care about that. They care about what is your course gonna do? Oh, your course is gonna help them lose 10 pounds so they can look great in that red bikini for their honeymoons, or they can, Respart their love life with their partner, right.

Or whatever it is. Right. You have to get clear on the benefits and you have to remember justifying it with logic. Well, Hey, maybe, you know, your platform can help them reach a broader audience. Like, you know, like Heights. Okay, how can I actually justify their investment? You can show them the ROI, always do the math throughout that transaction.

So you wanna show them how they can justify that purchase with that ROI. And that's really important. Couple like sales strategies. I love sales. So it's just something that I want, you know, the Creator's I know a lot of us Creator's are visionary artists, et cetera. I get it. But you have to. Make sure that, you know, some of these pressure free persuasive tactics and making sure that you're, you're doing the math you're, you're justifying with logic and you're selling, you know, the benefits, not the features.

Awesome.

Bryan McAnulty: Yeah. Those are all great tips. So we talked a little bit about you described your mastermind a little bit before but for those entrepreneurs who don't have the opportunity to go and join you in the Montana mastermind. What advice would you give them on how to disconnect from their their kind of day to day reality and gain clarity to feel less stress

Cary Jack: or burnout?

Yeah. Well, I mean, a couple easy things just to really touch on creating barriers. Like one thing that I think makes a huge difference. 30 minutes in the morning. No devices, no phone. As soon as you wake up. No, you know, no tech 30 minutes before bed, no devices, no tech like really being diligent on that.

One thing I like to do is a dopamine detox. Typically I do like a, a week long dopamine detox once a month. This is where I'll do no social media, no YouTube, no streaming shows, podcasts, all the things like I, I avoid that. I'll read, but. Is some of the most rejuvenating time. And I actually, I find like the last, you know, week I did my dopamine detox.

I made more money in that week than I did in like three months prior, which was crazy, but it was a ton. And I was like, oh my gosh, it's just cuz you're so hyper focused. You don't have all these little distractions. No. At you constantly. So little, you know, couple key things there. And one other thing I recommend too, if, you know, if, if you want to really do like a, a complete reset and like really get yourself back to homeostasis.

You have to go out in nature for three days, there's something called the three day effect. Uh, it was coined by a psychologist out of Utah. And basically it means you have to really disconnect and be in nature for three days. And the, the mental and physical and emotional benefits are so exponential.

The it's like a laundry list of what happens, reducing cortisol levels, you know, decreasing the inflammation in your body, all sorts of like things with REM sleep, tuning, your circadian rhythm. There's so many benefits. So just getting out in nature for three days, that's why the Montana mastermind is the duration it is.

So we can really get into nature for that long. But yeah, for, for the right people who do think they, you know, fit the bill, you know, I'm happy to have them apply, then go to carry jack.com/montana shameless plug. But, you know, I, it is something that we really cultivated and I'm really proud of. And it's something for the right people that can, can be an absolute catalyst in their life.

Bryan McAnulty: All right. So one thing we like to do in this show is have each of our guests ask a question to the audience. So if you could ask anything to our audience, what

Cary Jack: would that be? So one question that I think made a monumental impact on my life and my journey was what does success actually look like for you?

And when you can really get clarity around, what does success actually look like for you? Then you can reverse engineer the process to actually achieve it. And for me, it's gonna be different than Bryan, right? And it's gonna be different than for you out there listening and watching, but you have to get clarity on what does success actually look like for you?

And I take it a step further. I look at what does success look like in each of those 10 different alignments, right? So that I know what a five is in, you know, optimized health. I know what a five is in, you know, nature connection. And that way you can actually start to achieve your version of success. Cuz if you don't define your version of success, Unfortunately you'll most likely take someone else's version of success and, and STR for that.

And then unfortunately you might even reach it and then you'll realize it's unfulfilling. Then you'll have to go back and start the process all over again. So answer that question, fam. Awesome.

Bryan McAnulty: A great question. All right. Well, thanks so much, Cary, before you get going, where else can people find you online?

I know you mentioned before about the mastermind and about the the book offer a little bit maybe you wanna mention the book again where people can find that or just any other website.

Cary Jack: Yeah. Yeah. If you want a hard copy of the book send to your door, you can go to the happy hustle book.com.

You can also, you know, reverse engineer of the funnel and, and write down some of the things it might be worth. The Creator's even just going through the process. Even if you just get the book, it might be worth going through and clicking, you know, to see the different funnel steps. The podcast, the happy podcast.

Apparently now we're, you know, top 0.5% globally based on downloads. So it's, it's been growing. I've been getting some really cool guests on if you want to, you know, check out Cary jack.com. That's pretty much everything lives there. Social media, Cary Jack, C a R Y J C K. Yeah. Just here to help any way I can, if anyone has any questions, you know, send over a DM, my team will, you know respond and hopefully get you a really good response or sometimes I'll even respond.

So reach out if you if I can help in any way. All right. Awesome. Thanks Cary. Yeah, thanks Bryan. Peace and love everyone.

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