Bryan McAnulty [00:00:00]:

You ever feel a little bit sick, decide to Google your symptoms and suddenly the internet makes it sound like you might be dying soon? Well, you're not alone. A study found that more than 50% of Gen z users are turning to TikTok for health advice. Fortunately, not everything online is misleading and there are dedicated professionals like doctor Mary Partee who make it their mission to help patients feel seen and heard by their doctors. Doctor Mary Partee is a naturopathic medical doctor and certified functional medicine doctor specializing in preventative medicine and longevity. Growing up, she struggled with stomach issues almost daily, but her doctors only had one answer, medication, which helped, but never solved the core issue. She was told that she'd have to live with her pain for the rest of her life. But instead of accepting this fate, she decided that she'd become the doctor she never had. Today, she is finally healthy and free from the chronic pains she once endured.

Bryan McAnulty [00:00:51]:

Join us as we interview Doctor. Marie Pardee and discover her journey and learn how she's revolutionizing patient care with her online business.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:00:58]:

Now on social media, you even have people that are saying like plants can kill you and we shouldn't be eating vegetables and so there's anything that you can imagine people are saying on social media. And so we have to have a level of discernment as to who we're taking health advice from, and and be really cautious of that. Because I think that there is a lot of non evidence based things that are being passed around social media that can not only not be helpful, but potentially harmful for our health.

Bryan McAnulty [00:01:25]:

Welcome to the creator's adventure where we interview creators from around the world hearing their stories about growing a business. Hey, everyone. I'm Brian McAnulty, the founder of Heights platform. Let's get into it. Hey, everyone. We're here today with doctor Mary Pardee. Mary, welcome to the show.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:01:45]:

Hi, Brian. Nice to be here. Thanks for having me.

Bryan McAnulty [00:01:48]:

Yeah. Looking forward to talking with you. My first question is what would you say is the biggest thing that you did or you are doing that has helped you to achieve the freedom to do what you enjoy?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:01:59]:

Oh, okay. What's the biggest thing that I did or am doing? Okay. This is actually semi easy is just to get out there. I think that was the biggest thing that I've done that has helped me, and what I mean by that is meet people in real life and start conversations. And I don't like calling it networking because I can feel like you're having like a motive of what you're trying to get out of it but really just to be present in life and and see all the connections that you can make. Some of the biggest connections I've ever made have been made in the hallway of a conference just by a guy, you know, wandering around or, you know, getting a coffee and, chatting with somebody and figuring out what they do and collaborating. But I think sometimes as solopreneurs, we can be so, like, heads down in the work of, like, getting stuff done that we don't realize that people are all around us. And, and I currently have a community of entrepreneurs in my closest friend group and we're all creators and we all collaborate together and that for me is like dream life where like I can do a project with my best friend, and then, you know, we can be hanging out and spitting back and forth ideas because we met each other because we had these conversations to begin with.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:03:20]:

And we had so much in common of just growing a business and the creativity that comes along with that.

Bryan McAnulty [00:03:26]:

Awesome. Yeah. That's a that's a great, thing to pick and and different from, what I've heard others pick, but I think it's really important. So I I think that is good because, yeah, people think of, think of it as it has to be networking, and, then they they kinda keep their head down like you're saying. But I think it is really nice to take a step back and realize, like, these these important connections that you have in your life, like, how did they actually happen, and what can you do to, like, facilitate having more of those happen?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:03:58]:

Yeah. Yeah. And it's just it's just being human and having human conversations and being interested in other people and, and being in environments where you're going to be interested in other people. Right? Like, I'm not really putting myself in a bar where I'm meeting people who are drinking because that's not, like, my environment ideally. And so I'm meeting people in rock climbing gyms or I'm meeting people at Erewhon or I'm meeting people, you know, just, like, doing things that I love to do because that's where you're gonna find the people that you're most aligned with.

Bryan McAnulty [00:04:31]:

Yeah. That's great. Yeah. For me, the podcast is one of these things. I get to talk with interesting people every week. So on your website, you mentioned that you studied medicine to become the doctor that you never had. Can you share, like, a specific moment or experience from your personal life that was pivotal in kinda deciding to pursue this career in functional medicine?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:04:56]:

Yeah. And I think that's a commonality between entrepreneurs too. Right? We usually come to the place that we are because of our personal journey, whatever it is. And mine was a very physical personal journey with some health issues when I was younger, and so I had gut issues growing up. Up. I was constipated. I was bloated. I had reflux.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:05:13]:

I just didn't feel well from a GI perspective. And I went to see conventional gastroenterologist, primary care, did the whole work up, did the colonoscopy, had a bunch of blood work, did all the, you know, breath tests and things that go along with that. And I tried a bunch of treatments that they offered. So I tried medications and, after, like, I went through the conventional system and I didn't get relief. I went to acupuncturist. I went to chiropractors. I went to naturopathic doctor. I went to functional medicine doctors.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:05:44]:

You get the picture. Like, I just tried everything because I really wanted to feel better. And, eventually, I found myself in, like, gastroenterologist office in my, probably, mid early twenties. And he looked at me and he's like, I reviewed your chart. Nothing is really wrong with you. Like, you're not gonna die from this. There's nothing that's harming you, and I don't have any more treatment options. You've tried everything.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:06:09]:

You're just gonna have to live with it. Like, I got nothing. Like, bye bye kind of thing. And I walked out of that. It was, like, very clear moment in my life where I walked out of that office, and I was in tears as what I, you know, felt like as, like, a grown woman, like, in tears leaving a doctor's office. And it was just a feeling of of hopelessness. And and at that point I was like I don't want people to feel like this like I really want to become a doctor that doesn't make people feel like this like that's my one goal is to not have people leave my office feeling like I'm feeling right now. And, and that's what I've shaped my career around is how to help people with chronic GI issues, but with other things too and just like how to instill hope in people and how to get good results too.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:07:03]:

And I think we have to start to get creative and I think sometimes, you know, your patient quote unquote doesn't fit the algorithm and just because they don't doesn't mean you tell them I don't know what to do I wasn't trained in this kind of thing. And entrepreneurs are really good at getting creative and I think that we need a little bit more of that in medicine, and just the drive to really help somebody, to get get the results that they want.

Bryan McAnulty [00:07:29]:

Not accepting that it's not resolved yet.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:07:33]:

Yeah. Yeah. I think and I know what he meant with I tried all of the conventional things, but there was a bunch of things that I didn't try that was in the research that has evidence behind it and, and so that's really what I aim to do with my patients is to dig a little bit deeper and have other options for

Bryan McAnulty [00:07:52]:

them. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. I mean, my background is, like, software development, and so I I know friends and family who have struggled with health issues that it's a similar story. It, like, doesn't fit the doctor's algorithm of what they would expect to be the problem. And so it's kind of like, okay. Well, not quite sure.

Bryan McAnulty [00:08:14]:

You're not gonna die, but I don't know how to help you. And, like, in software development, like, you can't say, like, well, there is this this bug. It's, it's causing, like, severe distress for our user, but now we'll just leave it. We're not gonna look into it any further than

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:08:28]:

that. Right.

Bryan McAnulty [00:08:29]:

And, so, like, to me, that feels like crazy. But, yeah, I also wanna touch on, like, what what you actually do and how, like, I guess, traditional doctors, it's more about, okay. Well, we're just gonna give you some medication, and then that's, gonna cover it up rather than fixing what's actually causing it in the first place. So can you talk more about, like, the the differences between preventative medicine and traditional medicine?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:09:00]:

Yeah. Yeah. There's a there's a few key differences, and there's a lot of, you know, quote, unquote, conventional doctors doing preventative care now too, which is really exciting. And, what really one of the big differences is the amount of time that we're able to spend with people. So I spend between 30 minutes to an hour at every visit with somebody, and that allows me the opportunity to learn about their past medical history, their family history. What are they actually eating? What's their exercise look like? What are they doing for mindfulness? What is their mental health look like? And this is how I treat people is from a very holistic lens of I'm not gonna just treat the one thing, especially if I think other things are contributing to it. So it's to zoom out and really get the whole picture of somebody's health and, and then not to be reactive in in medicine and as much as we possibly can to be preventative. And what I mean by that is, it's around, you know, a big chunk of men, let's just say, will have so I think it's 50% will have a heart attack before the age of 65.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:10:08]:

And I bring this stat up because heart disease starts to form in our very early years, but we don't see symptoms of it until much later. And so to wait until somebody has chest pain or to wait until somebody has a positive coronary artery calcium score where we're seeing plaque formation in the arteries to actually treat somebody is craziness. Right? Like, we should treat it way before we get to that place so that we don't ever get to that place. And that's really what we're focused around is how do we prevent chronic disease from ever happening so that we have many more years of high quality life and potentially just many more years of life in general my focus is really around quality of life and so I'm not in the camp of, like, everyone's gonna live to a 180. I'm more in the camp of, like, something reasonable in terms of extending lifespan, but really good quality of life years while we're here. And so this can include just additional lab work where we're digging a little bit deeper and seeing what are some of these risks for cardiovascular disease or for diabetes or for osteoporosis. And how can we start to mitigate those risks now as early as possible because we know that when you start to develop chronic disease, that's really what's starting to impede quality of life in our later years into our seventies, eighties. But you gotta think about it now.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:11:37]:

So I love when I can start working with somebody in their twenties or their thirties because we can do so much to reduce reduce the risk for disease.

Bryan McAnulty [00:11:46]:

Yeah. So for all of our audience who's primarily entrepreneurs, I wanna talk about how you transition your medical practice to be online because I feel like most people hearing, okay. Like, you're you're a doctor, so then you're you work in an office. Right? What are you gonna do online? But, yeah, like, I'm curious about how how does that work and how did you find a a way for yourself to be able to serve people online? Yeah.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:12:17]:

I actually started online. I was one of the few doctors that, like, started online and, and then almost went backwards where now I see people in person sometimes as well. And COVID was, like, a big initiator of that. I really think people, like, wanted in person one on one time with somebody after COVID because of how isolated we all were. Yeah. But I love the flexibility of being online so that I can go spend a month somewhere else and not be in LA proper. And and for me, it was just that. It's, like, what do I wanna design my life to be like and how do I do that? And so for me, travel is so important and so to have the flexibility of being online and to be able to, you know, spend a week somewhere else and still see my patients and work was really important for me.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:13:09]:

So it was a lifetime lifestyle decision for me. And and I I really, really love it, and I love seeing my patients in person too, so I still do both of those.

Bryan McAnulty [00:13:20]:

Yeah. That's great. I think it's so important to build your business around your ideal life and and make it the way that you want. So then you can really, like, continue to focus on it and and and build what you want and chase after freedom maybe rather than money. So, still, like, I have questions in my head because I'm not involved in in medical stuff, but I would imagine, like, there's some hurdles that you'd have to overcome in in doing things online either, like, if there's certain regulations or even just customers not, like, patients not assuming that they could even be able to see you online in certain ways. So, were there any? Am I am I correct, or were those maybe not as difficult as you thought? Or how how does that look?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:14:10]:

No. There's definitely hurdles with telemedicine, especially if you're prescribing medications that are a a different schedule. So we have controlled medications by the DEA like testosterone for instance is one of them, Ketamine. We have a bunch of controlled substances and with those controlled substances pre COVID, you had to establish care in person with a patient to actually prescribe that and that's still the case COVID during during those years of COVID they put a kind of part time or short term waiver in place to say, okay, you can prescribe these things without seeing the person in person, and we're just now getting back into that is re is going to be a requirement again for people. And so there's definitely limitations, and that's why I still have an office in LA that people can come to do the in person work. And you also need to do physical exams on on some people. So we have a group of people, and a lot of them still have a primary care doctor still seeing an OBGYN. They're doing their yearly physical exams with those other practitioners.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:15:17]:

And so in that case, we may not need to do a physical. And then there's some people that were we really wanna do a specific part of the physical in person ourselves or we need to establish care for a controlled substance to be prescribed. So there's definitely barriers. It's not like it's the easiest thing to do, but we have a system that really works for patients and for us. And people right now love telemedicine. They love to be able to be on a work call and then 11:30 comes around, they jump on our Zoom, they see us, and then they jump back off and they're back at their house to their next work call. And, and so that's just, like, the reality of where we're at in the world right now is the ease in communication.

Bryan McAnulty [00:16:00]:

Yeah. Yeah. That's great. So we saw that you're pretty active on social media, and we saw one of your Instagram reels where you mentioned that one out of 5 people go to TikTok for medical advice because they don't either feel seen or comfortable with their own doctors. So you can you discuss, like, pros and cons of medical advice on social media and, like, risks involved and maybe how you believe medical professionals can kinda, like, bridge the gap because I'm sure there's so much useful information on social media, but I feel like I've definitely seen stuff where it's also like, I'm not sure this person's really, like, qualified or, like, what they're saying is true.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:16:41]:

Yeah. Yeah. I think you hit the nail on the head for the first part where you don't know who's talking to you on social media a lot of the times and and I think that's a really important piece and it doesn't mean that you have to be this medical professional to be able to speak on this thing right like I really believe that a lot of different people can add value to the space you know, if you've experienced a condition yourself to speak about your experience.

Bryan McAnulty [00:17:06]:

Right? Mhmm.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:17:07]:

And I think if if somebody isn't a practicing practitioner and hasn't treated many people with that one thing, then we can sometimes lose sight of what is being told to us. And I'll just give a more concrete example. Or if somebody has, let's say, irritable bowel syndrome and they say, you know, I took this probiotic and it healed me. Somebody else with IBS may think that one's gonna heal me then because I have IBS too. And unless you've treated 100 or 1000 of people with IBS, you wouldn't know that one thing rarely solves every one thing doesn't solve everybody with IBS's issues, and you have to treat each person that comes in. And just because it helps one person doesn't mean it's gonna help somebody else. Now on social media, you even have people that are saying, like, plants can kill you, and we shouldn't be eating vegetables. And so there's anything that you can imagine people are saying on social media, and so we have to have a level of discernment as to who we're taking health advice from, and and be really cautious of that, because I think that there is a lot of non evidence based things that are being passed around social media that can not only not be helpful, but potentially harmful for our health as well.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:18:22]:

And then on the flip side, I think that there can be a lot of utility about spreading, like, evidence based health information and allowing people access to things that they wouldn't be able to get otherwise. For instance, you know, for me, like, I I give out a ton of free health information online, and there's no possible way that I could see each of those people individually. And so I think we have the spectrum on social media, and we just have to go in with a level of discernment as the person who's listening.

Bryan McAnulty [00:18:54]:

Yeah. So you also sell online courses on supplements and gut health. And I'm curious, like, what role do these courses play for your practice? Like, what's, I guess, the primary business model? Is it, like, the telemedicine and, like, talking with clients, or is it the courses? Like, do the courses funnel people into it? How does it all work?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:19:15]:

Yeah. That's a great question. And, I built those courses with a 3rd party company, called Commune, and they're friends of mine. And I really it's one of those things. Right? Like, just put pick your head up, and you'll meet amazing people. And I enjoy collaborating with my friends. And, and right now, the main kind of way that they aid in our business is they provide leads to, our business for potential patients. And so people will often go on to the Commune platform.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:19:45]:

They'll see my course. They'll really resonate with the message that I have, and then they'll wanna become a patient of our practice. It's also another way to give out health information at a much lower price point than working with me directly. And so my goal is to spread as much positive health information that helps people live longer healthier lives as I can on the planet, just my personal mission statement. And so I'm not gonna do that by 1 on 1 care. I'm gonna have to have a bunch of different avenues to do that. And so courses are another way to scale that and reach more people, And, and I really, really enjoy them, and I'll be doing online content creation like that for a long time.

Bryan McAnulty [00:20:27]:

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's great. I think there's a lot of different niches and industries where people think, well, I have to, like, interact with the person. I can't have a course. But there's often all of these things that you end up going through with a client or a patient that is kind of repetitive to get them to a certain point of where you can now really help them individually. And I think courses are so powerful to scale that to everyone. So then once they come and talk to you, they can say, yeah.

Bryan McAnulty [00:20:57]:

I went through the course, so, like, this is where I'm at now. And they already have this baseline of understanding that is so much further.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:21:05]:

Yeah. Exactly. And you you you hit it on the head where the the supplements course that I created was me putting into words what I tell all of my private clients. So it's, like, everyone asks me, should I take a magnesium supplement? Should I take a fish oil? Should I do this? Should I do that? Or, like, how do I pick out a good supplement? And so all of those questions I get on a daily basis, I made into a course to say, okay. If you have this question, and a 1000000 other my patients have this question, I'm guessing a lot of people do, and so it's a really easy way to package information that doesn't have to be individualized to people, and to give it to the masses. And, it's one my supplements course is one of my favorite pieces that I've made just because I think it's gonna help people save so much money on not buying shitty, useless supplements, which is another mission of mine, because I've bought all of them myself.

Bryan McAnulty [00:22:01]:

So, yeah, I'm curious from the perspective of an entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs are usually or at least tend to be so focused that they're, like, all in on their business and their health tends to suffer. So what suggestions do you have for entrepreneurs out there to, better take care of their health?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:22:21]:

Yeah. So with my private concierge patients, a good chunk of them are entrepreneurs, high level CEOs, people that are really high achievers. And, they work with me because they don't have the time to do the research on their own to figure out, okay, what should what should I be eating? What should I be doing for exercise? Am I gonna live forever? Am I gonna die tomorrow? Kind of thing. Like, give me the lowdown. Just tell me what to do. And, and through working with all these people, I really realized that we can really suffer health wise when all we focus on this work. And it's so common for, especially, start ups, early stage companies, but you name it. You know, I used to have a bunch of people in the entertainment industry, and people are burnt out, and a lot of the times they're choosing to get that last thing done for work instead of their health.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:23:13]:

And so having somebody on your team that acts as a health coach or a concierge doctor or just a general care doctor to make sure that you're staying up to date with your screening exams, getting really in-depth blood work. It's not only gonna make sure that you live longer, but it's also very likely gonna improve your energy and your ability to work better right now. And so that's, like, the surprise that a lot of my clients get as well. Wow. Like, I thought that this was gonna, like, take away from the time I have to work, and what I'm realizing is I have more energy to work. I feel more rested. I've never felt stronger. I've lost, you know, body fat, and I just feel better in my body.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:23:53]:

I feel more confident to go out to these networking events. And so don't let go of your health, each and every one of them come to me and say, I wish I had done this sooner. I wish I had prioritized my health, because if you don't have health, you really don't have anything. And we don't want you to get to that point. We want you to think about it now and be preventative.

Bryan McAnulty [00:24:18]:

Yeah. Yeah. It's great. I I always, like, choke with my wife, like, the phrase health as well. Like, whenever, I'm gonna like, I wanna spend money on something that, like, the food is more expensive or or whatever it says, some something related to health that, like, it's probably worth it. Maybe not in the case of certain certain supplements as you were saying, but it's probably worth it versus, like, the long term effects of, like, not being healthy and then the quality of life suffering, all the money you have to spend on medical care and things like that. But I'm curious. Is there a option? Yeah.

Bryan McAnulty [00:24:54]:

Sure.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:24:55]:

How do you balance the 2, entrepreneurship and your health?

Bryan McAnulty [00:25:00]:

So I try to eat healthy, and I try to make sure that I give myself time to exercise 2 to 3 times a week at least. And I, like, specifically, like, schedule, like, when that's gonna happen. And I do find that I feel so much better from doing that, versus when I don't. And I pretty much have always been relatively good at being balanced with that except, like, couple years ago, our daughter was born and, like, some kind of time had I had to figure out how to make some time some kind of time and space for that. And so it seemed like health was the thing that, started to get neglected a little bit there. And getting back on track of that and and exercising more often really made a difference for me. But I'm curious actually, could you point to, like, is there one thing that's the most common that entrepreneurs or or people in general come to you as, like, what they seem to be leaving out? Is it, like, exercise, sleep, like, mental, food? I don't know.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:26:07]:

Yeah. Sleep is a big one, but it really depends on the person. So I have some people that are, like, no matter what, they're getting good sleep, but they can't figure out how to fit exercise in, or they just don't know what to do for exercise. A really common thing that I see is, you know, some days I do yoga, then I do Pilates, then I do this HIIT class, then I go to Orangetheory, then I lift weights one day. Sometimes they go for a walk, and they just don't really have a plan around what their exercise should be, or they don't have a goal either. And so a lot of it is becoming much more objective about exercise and writing prescriptions and having dose dependent, you know, outcomes that you're looking for. And the other thing that I see with entrepreneurs is they're, they're very likely to get a business coach or have advisors for their business or have business mentors, and I ask them. I'm, like, great.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:26:57]:

Who's your health coach? Who's your health mentor? Like, what are you doing for that bucket of your life? And a lot of the times, they're like, you know, I went to my primary care 2 years ago, and they said everything was fine. And I you would you would never say that about, like, oh, I had a business coach 2 years ago, and I haven't really talked about any anybody about business since then. Right? Like, that idea is crazy, but we do it with our health. And, and so part of it is just inspiring people to, like, don't forget about this bucket. Even though your business is growing, you wanna be able to enjoy the fruits of that business for the rest of your life. Like, that's the most important thing.

Bryan McAnulty [00:27:35]:

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm curious. What advice would you give to somebody who they wanna start some kind of business that is maybe not as typically seen to be online, like medical advice, and they're they're trying to figure out how to expand into the online world. But, like, they're worried about, I guess, either regulation or or all the hurdles of just it not being the common choice. What would you tell somebody like that?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:28:06]:

Yeah. Well, what I would say is that if it's not a common thing, like, you might have something really good going for you. Like, it's a way to differentiate yourselves from other companies because people are looking for things that are different, especially if the thing that isn't different isn't really working for people that well. And I think entrepreneurship is all about creativity, and so if you can imagine it, you can likely build it. And all of the hurdles are just that, they're hurdles. I, you know, there's this saying that with the greatest challenges comes the greatest opportunity, and I think that there's pieces of that that are very much true. And I will 100% say I do not have it all figured out. So if you look at me as, like, you got something that's figured out in health, I'm still, like, changing things, changing our model, changing our structure, looking at, you know, other things that I wanna do in the field.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:29:01]:

But I think what you brought up in the beginning was really important as to, like, envision what your life ideally looks like, envision what your health ideally looks like, envision all of it, and how what are, like, the first steps to go and and to do that with? And just because it doesn't exist doesn't mean that it's not possible, and doesn't mean that it's not a great idea. So, yeah, that's what's exciting about entrepreneurship for me is all these creative minds making things that change our lives.

Bryan McAnulty [00:29:35]:

Yeah. And I think you just mentioned a great point that both new and experienced entrepreneurs sometimes I feel forget is that you can change things. So if there I think there's people starting out that they're like, oh, I if I choose this, I'm stuck with it. Like, you can adapt and adjust later on. And I think there's also people that, like, they've just been doing it for so long. They forget that, like, there could be other ways. They could stop doing certain things. They could change things to not only make their lives better, but potentially make the lives better of their customers as well.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:30:07]:

I think some of the most successful companies started as something very, very different. Right? And so we have to be able to pivot to not be super tied to something. I know that's what I'm struggling with right now is, my brain can get fixated on something and, like, want it to be the same, and so to say, okay. We have to release parts of that because it's not serving the greater good, and what is this new thing that we don't even know about that could potentially be something that helps more people and is easier and more fun and, you know, gets to the general mission without some of the hassle?

Bryan McAnulty [00:30:44]:

Yeah. So one of the things I like to do in the show is have every guest ask a question to our audience. So if you could ask our audience anything, whether something you're curious about or just kinda wanna get people thinking about, what would that be?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:30:59]:

I think it's right in line with what we're talking about with, as an entrepreneur. If you can ask yourself, are you prioritizing your health as much as you're prioritizing your business growth? And if the answer to that is no, is that really how you want to be living your life, or is there something else that you could be doing to make sure you can live a really healthy, abundant, long life?

Bryan McAnulty [00:31:25]:

Awesome. Alright. Well, Mary, before we get going, where else can people find you online?

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:31:31]:

Yes. My website is modernmed.com. It's modrnmed.com. My Instagram, where I give out a ton of free health information, is at doctor.marypardee, p a r d e e, and then we also have at modernmed, m o d r n m e d, for both Instagram accounts. We started a podcast called Modern Wellness, where I interview people in the health industry about the latest and greatest in preventative medicine, gut health, and longevity. And if you are interested in working 1 on 1 with a doctor, you can actually go to modernmed.com, schedule a complimentary, totally free consults with 1 of the doctors in my practice. And if you wanna work in-depth in a concierge model, email us, reach out, and I'm still accepting a few, referrals for concierge patients as well.

Bryan McAnulty [00:32:23]:

Alright. Awesome. Mary, thanks so much for coming on the show.

Dr. Mary Pardee [00:32:26]:

Thank you, Brian. Really appreciate it.